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Long Pan -

I am using a Palm Z22 with a Oxford version of Pleco (the basic one). I want to upgrade my Palm to
install Pleco ABC and also CJKOS (which does not run on Z22). These threads (1, 2, 3) convinced me
to go for a Palm TX which I plan to buy here in Beijing. There is just one point I would like to
confirm before buying it : I currently synchronise my Palm address book with Outlook; could you
please confirm me that with CJKOS I will have no problem to synchronise a Chinese name from the
Palm address book to Outlook. Thanks



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Long Pan -

Let me change my question so that maybe I get more success with this thread
1) For those who have a Palm with CJKOS and use Palm address book or Memos - when you synchronise
these applications with your PC, does it keep well the Chinese characters ?
2) if so, with which applications on your PC do you synchronise you Palm address book or Memos ?
3) anybody doing it with Outlook ? what is the result with 汉字 ?

Thanks for your answers










gato -

Chinese characters synch fine with Outlook and memo pad.










Long Pan -

Thanks Gato; I'll go and by this TX this WE

But just to understand better one point : I thought Outlook only works with Unicode as CJKOS works
with GB and Big 5, how come can they synchro together ?










adrianlondon -

I tried this by entering a Chinese name in my Palm TX and syncing it with both Outlook and the
Palm Desktop.

Both times, the Chinese name showed in garbled characters. This is because, I guess, the PC
applications are using Unicode whereas the Palm TX with CJKOS is using GB.










gato -



Quote:

I tried this by entering a Chinese name in my Palm TX and syncing it with both Outlook and the
Palm Desktop.

Both times, the Chinese name showed in garbled characters. This is because, I guess, the PC
applications are using Unicode whereas the Palm TX with CJKOS is using GB.

It worked for me. In the language setting under control panel, do you have "language for
non-unicode program" set to "Chinese(PRC)"? Not that that should make a difference. But just an
outside possibility.










Long Pan -

I’m afraid that this will not do it for me; indeed as a French speaker I need the Windows
non-unicode language option to be French (and get my beloved accents)
Why Palm does not have his OS in Unicode like Windows; would be easier to mix all languages, no ?
Is that a problem of size (Unicode being more voluminous than other encoding, as far as I can
remember) ?










gato -

Have you tried synching with your Z22 first as a test?










ipsi() -

You will need to have that set. It won't work otherwise. This is because CJKOS (which you'll need
to buy seperately) only supports GB2312, GBK and Big5 natively. It uses Codepages if it's viewing
UTF-8 content...

It's a pain. You can also use AppLocale to change the encoding for just one application. I prefer
this, as changing the system encoding seems to change a number of other things as well.










Long Pan -

Gato, I’ve installed CJKOS on my Z22 (it runs well contrary to what I said in my first post) but
I get some ???? in my Palm address book for the Chinese characters that are synchronised from
Outlook (this happens with the “French” as non-unicode language)
Then of course I should try the same process with “Chinese” as as non-unicode language (what
you recommend) but I am just scared that then all the specific French characters
(é,à,ù,ç,è,ê,ë) that I have in Outlook will then come strange after synchronisation (which
I really do not want) and that I cannot recover the original. So I haven't done it.

Ipsi, AppLocale seems to be a good solution to open an application; but my problem comes when
synchronising Outlook with Palm (address book or Memo), so I don’t think it could help. Or maybe
it could help if I choose Chinese as non-unicode language on my PC, to open some application where
the French accents go crazy (like a dictionary I have). But before that I need to be sure that
during the synchro I do not lose all my accents…












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